261: Why Diversifying Your Income Is The Key To Freedom

Melissa [: 00:00:00

Alright, guys. So excited to be back today with another burnout to all out podcast episode with Lisa Morris who's a success coach, and I wanna underscore again that these are our Elevate 360 mastermind members who are here recording live in the studio. And I'm so excited. You guys are going to wanna listen in on this.

Melissa [: 00:00:24

Need some effective tactical advice that actually helps you get results and makes a real difference in your life and business? You've come to the right place. If you're finding yourself here today, it means you're getting ready to gain serious traction in your business, rapidly multiply your income and impact, and you're ready to make it happen while living all out. Guys, I'm Melissa Henault, your trustworthy corporate dropout turned 6 figure business burnout turned happy and healthy CEO of a multimillion dollar online business, and you're listening to the Burnout to All Out podcast. On this show, we're serving up innovative growth strategies, simple implementation methods to put them into practice, and action stimulating inspiration tailored specifically for the modern entrepreneur. Let's dive in.

Melissa [: 00:01:23

So let's just get started Lisa. You have gone from being a $1,000,000 in debt to retiring at such a young age and seemingly a pretty short period of time. Now I know that there's a backstory to this, and I know that many of us, it's our journey that becomes the map for the people that we mentor. And I feel like this is perhaps your story. Would you agree?

Lisa Morris [: 00:01:51

Yes. It's crazy. So it kinda all starts back in o seven when my ex husband left me high and dry with 2 kids, and my life was my profession. And then it didn't become my profession anymore. It didn't become my life. It wasn't like, my kids were it, so I had to leave my job to be able to take care of my kids because my kids were depressed, stressed out, know what was going on. And so I left my job. I went back into corporate world.

Lisa Morris [: 00:02:19

About 6, 9 months later Mhmm. I worked at that job, was very stable in that job, and then turned around, and I said, oh, $50,000. So people move for money, and I was offered this job, and it was $10,000 more, and I was making it. I was like, $50,000 a year, which doesn't sound like much today, but I was like, I don't have to have my parents watch my kids anymore. Like, I could afford a babysitter. Mhmm. And so I went to this company, and I was there exactly 8 months, and got laid off in 'eight, 'ninety. Oh, wow.

Lisa Morris [: 00:02:55

So I was part of the economy turning, and it was the most depressing stage of my life, and I fell into a coach very similar to yourself that looked at me one day and said, You are so depressed, and you wanna know how to change this? And I was like, oh my God, yes. And she was like, it's inside you. And if you have multiple sources of income, you will never be I'm not gonna say you're never gonna be depressed, you're never gonna be unhappy in life, but your security is there. And so I started growing multiple sources of income, ended up paying off that $1,000,000 in debt. I stayed in corporate world because I wanted that source of income as part of my portfolio.

Melissa [: 00:03:42

So you are able to generate $1,000,000 to pay off debt outside of also still working full time?

Lisa Morris [: 00:03:51

Yeah. And I did that in various ways. Extra income was one of them, but really taking an audit of my life and what was going on. I think that's the thing is like, what do we have? Where are we spending our money? Or where are we spending our time? If you're looking at time freedom, where are we spending our time? What's going on with that? It's knowing and doing that audit of where you currently are before you can ever move forward.

Melissa [: 00:04:16

Mhmm.

Lisa Morris [: 00:04:16

And so that was where we started, and we started just we still lived our like, you still see to this day, we still lived our lives as traveling the world and by taking my kids on vacations and paying for everything and taking my mom on vacations and things like that. We still did all that. Mhmm. But it wasn't It just things that you look in your house and you're like, well, that's sitting there, and I've never used it for 20 years. Why do I still have it? Right. So Right. Funny because we had conversation on the way here this morning, and the lady said I had this big house, and I wasn't using it. It was just me.

Lisa Morris [: 00:04:53

Mhmm. And she was like, I'd had it for so long, but it was materialistic to me because it was in my family. And she just decided one day that she was gonna sell it. And, like, it didn't hurt to sell it. A lot of times, we think it's gonna hurt us to do these things, but, really, it doesn't.

Melissa [: 00:05:10

Yeah. This is so good.

Lisa Morris [: 00:05:11

So can you give us because it sounds like

Melissa [: 00:05:12

the life audit piece is really important. Can you give us some more examples of, like, what you audited in your life that you are willing to part with in order to create the freedom that you have today?

Lisa Morris [: 00:05:24

One of the things we had I had a very large retirement sitting on the side. Mhmm. And at one point, I was allowed to withdraw money out of there with no circumstances, no penalties or anything. And I was like, if I die tomorrow, where's that money going? Mhmm. I can get rid of all this debt and this stress and give my life that stress, and then I can take and rebuild that. And so that was one of the things we did. We also went down to only 2 cars instead of 10 sitting in the driveway. Oh, wow.

Lisa Morris [: 00:05:57

That's kind of exaggerating. Right. Just little things like that. One of the biggest things that people don't think about is what's in their fridge and what's in their pantry. So we were one of those people. When you don't have anything, you hoard things. Mhmm. And you don't you think of hoarding as, oh, well, I collect spoons or something like that.

Lisa Morris [: 00:06:19

We were collecting food because we didn't have the money to buy food. And my husband and I hunted, And we, living on the property that we lived on in the state that we were in, we could take as many deer as we needed. Mhmm. And so we literally would hunt every day, a hunting season. Oh, wow. And fill our freezer with deer meat to be able to make it through the year. Mhmm. And so we took an audit of that, even though that, you know, technically, is free meat, but we were there's other things in the freezer, other things in the cabinet.

Lisa Morris [: 00:06:57

I was a couponer. Uh-huh. So imagine all this stuff I have that we really didn't use. You know? So we did I really did. It probably took me 6 months to clean out my cabinets and, like, get rid I think I still sometimes have things or I find things. Right. But it's taking an audit of what you currently have and what do I need. Mhmm.

Lisa Morris [: 00:07:19

When I work with people on budgets, Melissa, I don't believe a budget should be bare minimum. Like, if you want a Starbucks every Friday Mhmm. To treat yourself for the week because it's been a hell week Mhmm. Go get your Starbucks. You know?

Melissa [: 00:07:32

Right.

Lisa Morris [: 00:07:33

I don't think you should deprive yourself. Like, I've always got my nails done because that makes me feel good. Mhmm. So that's always been in my budget. So I think developing that budget that's a working budget for you. Mhmm.

Melissa [: 00:07:46

Yeah. I love that. We were talking about this with my kids the other day where there's this quality of life. There's a quotient where, you know, we talk about the ROI on what we're on. Right? And I had this conversation with my kids the other day because the ROI, to your point around getting your nails done, the ROI can occasionally be lifestyle. Yeah. But within the realms and the means of what you are. Right? Last year, I bought a handbag.

Melissa [: 00:08:15

Right? And it was funny because my kids were giving me shit about it because it was a really expensive handbag. And what I explained to them was this whole ROI piece. I said, mommy works really hard and I'm creating a living for this family and we're paying all of our bills and we've got plenty of money in the savings account. We're invested in diversified portfolio. There is a part of life that's enjoyable

Lisa Morris [: 00:08:42

Right.

Melissa [: 00:08:42

And that you're able to reward yourself when it makes sense on the balance sheet. The ROI can be lifestyle. Yeah. And there's no guilt attached to that. And so I love that you brought that up because I do feel like growing up with not much, sounds like you're cut from the same cloth where my parents could barely make ends meet and would literally grocery shop at Walmart on a credit card because it was the only place back in the eighties that you could use a credit card and they could get peanut butter and bread and, like, feed us. And so I find to this day, and I don't know if you struggle with this, but the guilt of buying something luxury.

Lisa Morris [: 00:09:20

Yeah.

Melissa [: 00:09:20

Even though on the balance sheet, it makes total sense that it's an ROI lifestyle investment that you should enjoy. Right? Can you speak to that?

Lisa Morris [: 00:09:28

And, you know, Melissa, what spoke to my heart when you were speaking was that, like you do in the 3.60, it's it's the whole 360. I talk about this in staffing being in HR for 25 years. I talk about this in staffing as when you're hiring somebody, you're not just hiring them for their skills. You're hiring them for a 360 look. Right. And so you talk about the 360 in our Mastermind, and immediately, what sparked to me was there's a mindset change that has to come with that. And to this day, I mean, my my husband and I, my new husband and I have been pretty much debt free for about 10 years now. Which is incredible.

Lisa Morris [: 00:10:07

And it's it's still when we get a an amount of money come in Mhmm. The significant or if we use credit cards for travel type things, I am not against credit cards at all, but I think you need to use them sparingly. Mhmm. And so, if he gets a certain amount on there, he kinda gets, you know, and and it's like, okay, calm down. It's okay. Here's the plan, you know. Here's how it's being taken care of. The money is here.

Lisa Morris [: 00:10:35

Right. That kind of thing. And but it's that mindset of changing. My husband was raised extremely on the poverty side, not knowing where he was gonna be from night to night and things like that, And so he hoards a lot of things because that's what happens when you don't have anything. You don't know when if you get a car, you don't know the next time you'll be able to get another car. Mhmm. And so you start to hoard things. And so that was a mindset.

Lisa Morris [: 00:11:05

It's not easy to teach your spouse Mhmm. To change those mindsets. So it's been a struggle. Mhmm. But it's been a mindset change that has come and us getting ready to retire at the end of this month, and we're actually moving out of our house. Our son's buying our house, and so we will be completely, like, no debt whatsoever, but it was all a plan. We bought a truck. We bought that truck at the right time.

Lisa Morris [: 00:11:32

We paid it off. We bought the camper at the right time. We paid it off, and it's just been that plan that we had. Now plans don't always go just the way they're supposed to Right. But you have to have that path. Mhmm. So you gotta know where you're at, and then you gotta have that path to get there. Mhmm.

Lisa Morris [: 00:11:48

And then when you get there, you really have to celebrate because that's the thing. People forget to celebrate. Yes. Celebration is so important.

Melissa [: 00:11:56

Yes.

Lisa Morris [: 00:11:56

I don't think we sit in that until Mhmm. Mhmm. We do things.

Melissa [: 00:12:00

Yeah. It's so true. And I take back to the Chanel handbags. And for me, the celebration piece was I'm in a mastermind, just like you're in my mastermind. And one of the things we talked about last year was how are you celebrating? And one of the things I reflected on is I'm like, here I am running a multi 7 figure a year company, yet I still travel globally with a back that I got for free convention 10 years ago. And I'm showing up to be a speaker and talk about this massive company that I've run and I'm carrying a free backpack on my back and I was like, damn it. Like, I deserve a nice bag. And so we agreed as a group.

Melissa [: 00:12:41

I committed to my mastermind members. This is how I'm going to celebrate. When I hit this milestone in revenue, I am going to buy this bag. And it's it's that moment of celebration. Okay. A bit of a tangent, but I'm curious because we're talking about hoarding and we're talking about hoarding food, and I'm like, where does one draw the line between hoarding food and actually being efficient with time and resources? And what I mean by that is being a family of 5 Mhmm. And being really busy, grocery shopping, and meal planning is it's a type suck and it's an inconvenience every time you have to reorder things that you're running out of. So, like, I'm actually the queen of, like, having 2 or 3 of just about everything that's consumed quickly in the house because I despise the continuous refill of the things that are constantly being used.

Melissa [: 00:13:33

Mhmm. So where is the line drawn between hoarding and being efficient? So, like, I'm the one that buys, like, the big master pack of toothbrushes in the house to keep because the last thing I want with 5 people in the house is every month somebody needing a new toothbrush. And the same thing with soap. Well, they've got 5 people, 4 different showers that people are using, and I keep stock of shampoo, conditioner, body soap. And from my blends, it's efficiency so that when we run out, it's there. But am I hoarding from my past? Or is it a convenience thing that I'm doing?

Lisa Morris [: 00:14:09

I think there you have to personally decide that line. Yeah. Like, I remember 3 boys. I had 3 boys in the house and you definitely don't want them having bad breath or stinking because boys, when they go through that age stage change, I don't know if yours are.

Melissa [: 00:14:24

Oh yeah, we're gonna think of it with my oldest. Yeah,

Lisa Morris [: 00:14:27

it's not fun.

Melissa [: 00:14:28

Yeah.

Lisa Morris [: 00:14:28

And they don't like to shower either.

Melissa [: 00:14:30

So No. What is wrong with you?

Lisa Morris [: 00:14:33

Yes. Yes. And so I think it's a line where you're starting to give them independency. So, hey, their grocery store is your closet and that kind of thing. So I go to Costco and buy paper towels Yeah. Because we go through paper towels a lot. Right. But I also have gone like, I watch the price because if the price of buying that large one is more expensive per roll of toilet paper Mhmm.

Lisa Morris [: 00:15:00

Per per roll of paper towels, then I'm gonna go to a different storm bias. Mhmm. So Mhmm. I think you do have to watch when you're looking at bulk and things like that. Mhmm. You do have to watch, like, are they jacking the price up because I'm getting more? Right. That type thing. So watching that Mhmm.

Lisa Morris [: 00:15:13

But, also, hey, you don't wanna run out. Mhmm. So but also, hey, you don't

Melissa [: 00:15:16

wanna run out.

Lisa Morris [: 00:15:16

To me, it's the inconvenience of running out. I like an unending supply. I don't like to I'm not a shopper.

Melissa [: 00:15:18

Like Yep. A lot of women like to shop.

Lisa Morris [: 00:15:21

I'm not a shopper. And so I don't like to go to the store. So if I can make one trip to the store for the week and get everything or even if I could do milk for the whole month or creamer for the whole month Yes.

Melissa [: 00:15:38

I'd be alright.

Melissa [: 00:15:38

Yeah. I I get it in a pack of 3, the milk and the family. Yeah. Well, this is so good. So the inception method that you do, is that what we're talking about here or is that something different?

Lisa Morris [: 00:15:48

Yeah. And I think this method that the success method really can tailor to everything. It's knowing where you're at. Mhmm. Knowing ultimately where you wanna be, and, okay, let's make a path to get there. And that path might be different for every person.

Melissa [: 00:16:04

Mhmm.

Lisa Morris [: 00:16:04

There's kind of a standard of how to pay your debt off and things like that or how to audit your time. My three pillars are health, time, and and finances. Mhmm. And so I really help people navigate how do I get where I wanna be. And like yourself, it might be bodybuilding, but other people, it might be running or other people, it might just I wanna be healthy. I think it's a lot of things are very individualized. Mhmm. It's not a set path.

Melissa [: 00:16:33

Yeah. Yeah.

Lisa Morris [: 00:16:34

And, like, you've got 5 in your family while I'm down to 2. Right. And so there was a mental adjustment there too. Right. As these boys moved out, like, what do I need to do and what do I need to adjust here? So

Melissa [: 00:16:44

So good. Okay. Well, so you're retiring. How old are you?

Lisa Morris [: 00:16:49

47. You're 47.

Melissa [: 00:16:51

I'm 46. Your husband's 46. So, I hope my listeners are hearing this. We went from a $1,000,000 in debt to being 47 years old and retiring and living completely debt free, which is such an inspiration. What are some of the biggest tips? I know we've talked a little bit about your inception method, but what are some of the tips that you can share with folks to get started today? Like, on really living that time freedom, financial freedom lifestyle? Because I know you've been able to consolidate debt. You've also been able to build multiple streams of income. Can you talk a little bit about how you've been able to diversify income streams and how you've been able to, at the age of 47, literally having no debt and retiring you and your husband?

Lisa Morris [: 00:17:37

Well, Melissa, to be honest with you, it happened. It manifested and happened, and I truly believe in that. You gotta think it first. You gotta have a dream. Mhmm. And I can remember as a young child dreaming that I would be a teacher one day. Mhmm. But then as I got older, dreams kinda went away, and I didn't dream anymore.

Lisa Morris [: 00:17:58

And then when I met that coach, that was one of the first things she was like, well, what do you wanna do? And I was like, I have no idea. I just know I don't wanna sit in this brown cubicle the rest of my life. Right. And she was like, okay. We need to start dreaming. And it it's a hard skill to learn. Mhmm. Oh my God.

Melissa [: 00:18:13

Because you're conditioned from a young age, like, that it's not possible. Yeah.

Lisa Morris [: 00:18:17

Yeah. Yeah. You're put in that box. I call it the box and you're put in that box and you're supposed to go to college and get a good job and then marry your high school sweetheart, which I didn't have one. So I didn't marry my high school sweetheart, but I married somebody. And then, you know, have kids and have this white picket fence. And I say that, and please don't deem me if you have a white picket fence. It's not a bad thing.

Lisa Morris [: 00:18:40

But you're supposed to have this picture perfect world or this fairy tale world, and then the minute you lose your job, it's all gone to hell. And so what do you do? You have no plan. You have no security. You have nothing.

Melissa [: 00:18:56

I have

Lisa Morris [: 00:18:56

a friend that just recently this has happened to her. She's been laid off by the layoffs and things like that, and I've been watching her, and I'm like, you gotta get up every morning, and your job needs to be finding a job. And so, talking to her through this but it's mindset. Mhmm. That mindset needs to change, and you need to recognize that. So starting and knowing where you're at Mhmm. Where you wanna go, and then helping somebody navigate how to get there.

Melissa [: 00:19:24

Mhmm.

Lisa Morris [: 00:19:24

And some of the things that I've really done is meditation in the mornings, taking that time to sit, and, b, my brain doesn't like to shut down, and so it isn't I've been doing this for quite a few years, and it's still hard for me to shut my brain down. And a lot of people are like, my brain doesn't shut down. Right. Go walk. Yeah. And your brain you know, concentrate on your every step or think about the air conditioning running or something like that, but shutting my brain down so that my brain has time to rest. Mhmm. Because even what I find is when I'm sleeping, my brain's still going.

Lisa Morris [: 00:19:58

And so just resting my muscle Mhmm. Of my brain and then, like, allowing myself to dream about where I wanna be. So every morning, my dream is to sit on the ocean and drink my coffee. And so, literally, every morning, I dream about that, like, I'm almost there. And

Melissa [: 00:20:19

so the manifestation piece.

Lisa Morris [: 00:20:21

Yeah. Just manifesting it out. Mhmm. It's really become a reality that this is happening because I wasn't quite sure it was gonna happen. And just we had a plan. Like, we're gonna buy the truck. We're gonna buy the camper, and then it's kinda been like, oh my god. It's here.

Lisa Morris [: 00:20:39

It goes very quickly once it starts to happen. Mhmm. But starting with, hey, where am I at?

Melissa [: 00:20:46

Mhmm.

Lisa Morris [: 00:20:46

Doing that internal audit

Melissa [: 00:20:49

Mhmm.

Lisa Morris [: 00:20:49

Of where am I really at? Where am I thinking? Where's my brain space around if it's gonna be money or if it's gonna be time or if it's gonna be your health?

Melissa [: 00:20:59

Mhmm.

Lisa Morris [: 00:20:59

And discovering where your thinking is, and, okay, how can we change that thinking? Because that thinking is where it all really starts.

Melissa [: 00:21:08

Yeah. Absolutely. Between your 2 years. Yeah. So good. So, I mean, you've really found the key to health and happiness and wealth. Can you speak a little bit to, like, the diversified revenue streams that you've created for yourself? So we invest.

Lisa Morris [: 00:21:24

We do several different types of investments related to that. We're actually going to be getting into real estate pretty soon. Awesome. So one of the things is we can take a lump sum out on his retirement Mhmm. Which, again, goes back to the piece where you determine whether is that money in my hands better and me making money off of it Mhmm. Or should I leave it in this retirement? So we sit down. We wait out things. What does this look like if we do this and we're gonna invest and we're working on? That'll be another stream.

Lisa Morris [: 00:21:54

My husband and I own a scuba diving business Uh-huh. Which is awesome. Yes. We got married underwater. So everybody it's still like the coolest thing in the whole way world. Nobody ever gets married underwater. We got married underwater. So but, yeah, we have the the scuba diving.

Lisa Morris [: 00:22:11

It we used to do this every weekend. We've kinda faded out this last year Mhmm. And not doing it as much. We still teach at the colleges and things like that. We don't really know where that'll go from here. And then we also have a couple different businesses. Coaching businesses, one of them that I do. Mhmm.

Lisa Morris [: 00:22:32

And then we have some other forms of income that come in. Mhmm. Everything is really kinda little. Uh-huh. Now major income is our corporate jobs

Melissa [: 00:22:41

and where we work. But you've created this portfolio Yeah. Of security around it.

Lisa Morris [: 00:22:46

It's a portfolio is what it is. Just like your retirement is a portfolio when you're looking at 401 k and stuff like that. So it's a it's a portfolio, and it what happens is let's say my corporate job goes away

Melissa [: 00:23:00

Uh-huh.

Lisa Morris [: 00:23:00

And I get laid off tomorrow Uh-huh. Or they decide they wanna fire me because they can do that at Will States, you know, whatever. So let's say that job goes away and that income goes away. Well, now I have 40 hours a week or 50 hours a week, whatever I was putting into that corporate job. I can now put it into the coaching business or put it into the diving business or or put it into this or that. And so then, again, it goes back to auditing your time Yeah. And where does your time go? And so that's the security around.

Melissa [: 00:23:28

It creates choice, and it creates purity. And I think that's the biggest tap in corporate America is where people are solely solely dependent on a single source of income from an employer. It creates this disadvantage and lack of power and decision in your own life. And I know that when I scaled my first business around my 9 to 5, I'd never felt so empowered while I was employed. Because I actually it was good for my mental health because I knew at any moment, if I was not aligned to how I was being treated or the way the company was being run, I could leave. And it there was no impact to my family, you know, that I had control and I had destiny versus that fear of losing your job or consolidation or how many of us have been in roles where, like, you just had that awful boss that you had to report to. And so I think that creating that diversified income is really smart. One of the things I wanted to chat with you about, and I'm curious, your take on this, because I know that you're debt free.

Melissa [: 00:24:28

One of the things that I've been mentored on that I've had this kind of mental shift on is that before paying your house off, really assess the actual interest rate you have today versus the returns you can get in other aspects. So if you owe half a1000000 on your home, but it's at 3%, and you can get a four x return on another investment or, like, let's say, like, in our case, instead of paying the half million, we still owe on a $2,000,000 home, leveraging that money to actually invest in another piece of real estate that's going to appreciate at a higher rate, have the tax write offs from it, and be able to actually rent it where people are paying the debt on the home, all of a sudden, these compounding numbers don't make sense to pay off debt at 3% when that same amount of money can be put somewhere else with a compound effect of a value of significantly more.

Lisa Morris [: 00:25:27

Compound effect is the mother of all. Like, I am, like, all about compounding your money. Hence, why we're taking the lump sum out Uh-huh. Is because why should I allow the government Uh-huh. His work state job. So why should I allow the government Mhmm. This large amount of money that they're gonna grow interest off when I can invest it over here Right. And make more interest off.

Lisa Morris [: 00:25:52

Yes. 100%. You do have to, like, look at those. And sometimes getting outside the box, getting somebody that's not in the box to look at it, it helps too. But really thinking about that, I remember the first time that I really sit down and looked at everything and did that first audit of what are our assets? What are our liabilities? What are our true assets? Because some people think an asset is an asset, but it's really not.

Melissa [: 00:26:21

It's actually a liability. Yeah.

Lisa Morris [: 00:26:23

If you got a house that's falling apart, it's probably might be a liability. And so we owned a camper that was paid off Mhmm. And it was a brand new camper. And I asked somebody to take a look at it, and they were like, I think you should sell your camper. Well, there was twofold to that. That camper was part of my scuba diving business because we lived out of it every weekend. Uh-huh. When we went scuba diving, that's what we actually lived out of.

Lisa Morris [: 00:26:47

Uh-huh. So that camper became part of that business

Melissa [: 00:26:50

Yes.

Lisa Morris [: 00:26:50

And therefore was a tax write off.

Melissa [: 00:26:52

You have to look at the bigger picture, which I think a lot of people don't. Yeah.

Lisa Morris [: 00:26:56

Right? Yeah.

Melissa [: 00:26:57

So good. This is such we could talk forever. Okay. So as we're kind of wrapping up, 2 questions for you. As a member of the e 360 mastermind that you're in and, you know, we take a holistic approach to business, bodies build businesses. So we really look at the mind, body, spirituality, and business strategy to really grow and evolve as humans. Where have you transformed the most this year when it comes to either personal or business? Where have you transformed the most in your E 360 approach?

Lisa Morris [: 00:27:30

So, Melissa, you were talking about corporate world and that whole unbalance of values, and I have been faced with that. And if I had not been a part of this group, I would not be able to come back to a center every time it's happened. Mhmm. Because our company has gone through the biggest change, so many changes. Mhmm. And it's really been a very scary time, and I've faced that, hey. I might have I really need I want and need my job till December. Mhmm.

Lisa Morris [: 00:28:07

That's my goal. And if something happens before December, that's gonna change things. You know? Our plan's gonna be a little off, and it being that close Mhmm. That becomes an emotional thing. Uh-huh. And so that scaredness, that fear Mhmm. Which is exactly what it is. It's fear.

Lisa Morris [: 00:28:23

I recognize that It comes up. Mhmm. And so I think about that and that if I didn't have this group Mhmm. And what we have been talking about around emotions and around fear and that our body is our business, and we are our business. And if we're off, then our business is off, and it's feeling and it's vibrating through every person that we're speaking to. Yeah. And so if I didn't have come back to being grounded Mhmm. And doing breath work and meditation every morning, then I would have probably fallen apart by then.

Lisa Morris [: 00:29:01

And I may have thrown in the towel on my coaching business because that's that was one of the main reasons of coming to you. Everything in general has been flourished, but the business, I mean, it's been a learning curve. Yeah. It's been it's definitely been a learning curve. I remember the first meeting Yeah. And you said, okay, Lisa. I really think you need to get a social media manager. Uh-huh.

Lisa Morris [: 00:29:26

And I knew it already.

Melissa [: 00:29:27

Uh-huh.

Lisa Morris [: 00:29:27

But it was just like, why am I not like dawned on me. Like, why am I killing myself? I don't have the time and I'm killing myself trying to make the time, and it's just not happening. Well, and that's where sometimes

Melissa [: 00:29:40

and that's why you invest in leadership or mentorship because they can see because they've been in your shoes and they can see just a couple steps ahead. And it's like, no. No. Wait a minute. You're the bottleneck here.

Lisa Morris [: 00:29:50

Yeah. I always say you're not in the box because your world, you, can't see you from the outside. You can still look in a mirror and see it, but you can't always see everything. You can't see your back when you're looking at your front. It doesn't happen.

Melissa [: 00:30:03

So true. Yeah. So true. Well, Lisa, this has been so good. As we're wrapping up, we think about you being a success coach and how you really help people design a plan they live and the dream life that they desire. How can they connect with you, and what kind of resources do you have?

Lisa Morris [: 00:30:20

Yeah. So I have a daily wealth checklist because wealth is not just one day. Mhmm. You have to look at your money every day, and sometimes we don't like to do that, but it needs to become a daily action. So I have a daily a checklist. I also have a budgeting 1 on 1 class, and those are free resources. I'm also hosting a master class 3 day master class at the end of September Okay. That will be free, and people can get into that.

Lisa Morris [: 00:30:50

Mhmm. All of this stuff that we're speaking on can be accessed through my Linktree link. So it's link tree, tr.ee/lisamorris. Okay. And I'm sorry. It's Lisa j Morris. Yep.

Melissa [: 00:31:07

You wanna say that one more time altogether?

Lisa Morris [: 00:31:09

Yeah. It's Linktree. So it's linktr dotee slash lisa jmorris, m o r r I s. And that will take you to everything I'm doing. Right now, it stays updated on a daily basis as things change and stuff like that. You know, Melissa, I just thought about something, and this is probably one of the greatest accomplishments I've had this year, and it's all because of the 360 Mastermind, is I have dyslexia, and we didn't really talk about that. But I have dyslexia. I own that, and it's not something that you can go out and have surgery to change.

Lisa Morris [: 00:31:50

It's there. It's never going away. It's always gonna be there. And writing the book

Melissa [: 00:31:56

Mhmm.

Lisa Morris [: 00:31:57

Was like, I think I'm still in awe that it even happened. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Because that pushed me so far outside my comfort zone, but yet I feel so much joy inside Mhmm. Overdoing it.

Melissa [: 00:32:12

Yeah. Yeah. I love that for you. And I know you and I talked about that on your last coaching call. How much you surprised yourself with what you were capable of. And now you're a best selling author. Yes. So awesome.

Melissa [: 00:32:23

So awesome. Well, Lisa, this has been so much fun. Thank you for flying all the way here to Charlotte and recording this live. I know that you're an inspiration to so many. We'll make sure to put all the details in the show notes. And thanks for all that you're doing to really impact how people are harnessing the power of their wealth and the trajectory of their life and living out their dream life.

Lisa Morris [: 00:32:44

They're all out. They're yes life as I call it.

Melissa [: 00:32:46

Yes. Opportunities. Awesome. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks guys so much for listening in on today's podcast episode. And I can't wait for you to see my upcoming guest in the next episode. You are going to love this keynote speaker.

Melissa [: 00:33:03

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